PODCAST: A Little-Known Country, Part 31 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #82 with Daniel Whyte III)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #82.

Our Scripture Verse for today is Psalm 94:18-19 which reads, “When I said, My foot slippeth; thy mercy, O Lord, held me up. In the multitude of my thoughts within me thy comforts delight my soul.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Juliette Lewis. She said, “The bravest thing I ever did was continuing my life when I wanted to die.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 31):

The following two letters were written to Fred in the course of these negotiations.

31 July 1921

Dear Fred:

I am sorry that I gave you the impression that my recent illness was in any way to be laid to your account because you had sent me a copy of The Unseen Guest. I remember very distinctly that I asked you to send it. The responsibility was therefore mine. The last thing I would want would be a censorship of my reading. Perhaps it is unfortunate that I read it just at that time, but I am glad to have seen it.

Your account of the labor situation is most discouraging. Sometimes I think that if there is no work in sight it might be a good plan to go back to the Seminary where I could tackle this new problem with the help of such a man as Professor Coe. It seems to me a problem in religion and psychology and philosophy rather than in medicine. Such a plan would have the advantage of giving me a new start. I would not get that if I began as a scaler of logs or photographer or pastor of some little church.

I am bearing in mind constantly that in rejecting Dr. Holt’s splendid offer in the survey field, my feeling was that my chief contribution should lie in the experience through which I had passed. The recent catastrophe has not altered that view. It has only changed my interpretation of my experience and has connected it up with a very different field from that with which I would otherwise have connected it. But the values in that experience still remain. I cannot for the life of me see that I am any the worse for the recent disturbance. In fact, I really believe there has been some progress. I hold with Prof. Coe that the important consideration in any religious or mystical experience is the result attained and not how it was attained.

I am glad to report that the celebration on the Fourth, in spite of many short-comings from my point of view, was regarded as quite a success. Apparently it was the first thing of the sort attempted here. The photography is also going well. This is the first time I have had a good dark room with running water and plenty of chemicals. I have the task of taking the pictures of all the new patients and I am also taking pictures of the buildings and grounds and of the hospital activities. They granted me a few days ago the privilege of selling some of these views.

Dr. Chambers inquired this morning if I had heard anything from you recently. He then volunteered the suggestion that if I wanted to go to the Blomingdale Hospital, I could be transferred any time. That would, he said, apply to any form of release under sponsorship. My feeling is that if I have to stay in any institution of this sort, I had rather stay here where so much interesting work is opening up.

They are allowing me many privileges now. I went alone to Worcester the other day and my job as hospital photographer takes me freely into all the wards.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 32 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.


Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!