PODCAST: A Little-Known Country, Part 25 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #76 with Daniel Whyte III)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #76.

Our Scripture Verse for today is Philippians 4:6-7 which reads, “Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from Charles Spurgeon. He said, “Fits of depression come over the most of us. Usually cheerful as we may be, we must at intervals be cast down. The strong are not always vigorous, the wise not always ready, the brave not always courageous, and the joyous not always happy.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 25):

20 March 1921
Dear Fred:

The feeling is growing within me that before committing myself to the doctors at Bloomingdale I should like to talk things over with you carefully. You see, I have been doing quite a bit of thinking since I read the book you sent. It opens up a wide view and gives rise to questions which require intensive thinking. It draws my attention away from the problem of insanity to another problem of which I fear the doctors might not approve.

I am still planning to come down to New York Friday or Saturday night, arriving early in the morning.

21 March 1921
Dear Fred:

I am very sad to-day.

Last November, after your visit here, you wrote me a fine letter in which you gave precisely the right suggestions. The time of my stay here is drawing to a close and the task you set me is unaccomplished. Your friend Anton Boisen has failed and his task remains undone.

My eyes are opened now through the book you sent me. I see and am much troubled. The failure is a tragic one. Its awfulness I can scarce imagine.

Have you noticed in reading The Unseen Guest that while the facts related there may be true, as I believe they are, it is not Christianity which it teaches. It implies a religion of ancestor worship. You notice, don’t you, that Stephen is “of the same degree” and that the doctrine of evil and pain is inadequate. Evil and pain in this world are for him merely hallucinations. I tremble when I think of what this means.

I am feeling anxious about my release, for I am under a heavy strain and I am afraid they may keep me here, when what I need is to be with friends who understand. If anything should prevent my release this week, I fear for the results. The doctors have no understanding of my problem. I hope you will do all you can to hurry the thing through.

I see it all so clearly now. We are indeed just part of larger personalities, but with our eyes closed to that relationship. Our responsibility here is to do the allotted task. And I have failed.

22 March 1921
Dear Fred:

In my recent letter I flew some signals of distress. I am sending you a few lines to-night to ask you to take those signals down. The problem has cleared up and all is right again. I suppose it is the fact of being still in custody which makes me so fearful.

I still feel that if I could get a place to stay and a little something to do outside of Bloomingdale, that might be a better plan.

I have not yet figured it out, but I am feeling rather happy now.

P.S. One hour later. It comes to me again that the situation is now very, very critical. Everything is hanging in the balance. I need your prayers and your help. You must get me out of here this week, no matter what happens. Oh, it is indeed terrible. Our Christian civilization is doomed and the battle will have to be fought all over again. It must now be fought against evil forces which are greatly augmented.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 26 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.


Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!