PODCAST: A Little-Known Country, Part 22 (Out of the Depths #73 with Daniel Whyte III)

Welcome to the Ordained Chaplains podcast. My name is Daniel Whyte III. I am the president of Gospel Light Society University. We are going through the book “Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study Of Mental Disorder And Religious Experience” by one of the pioneers of chaplaincy, Dr. Anton T. Boisen. This is episode #73.

Our Scripture Verse for today is Psalm 34:17-20 which reads, “The righteous cry, and the Lord heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles. The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from C. S. Lewis. He said, “When pain is to be born, a little courage helps more than much knowledge, a little human sympathy more than much courage, and the least tincture of the love of God more than all.”

In this podcast, we will continue discussing the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 22):

My chief reason for wanting to go to Bloomingdale was to make contact with what I am told is the foremost institution in the country now concerned with the problem of mental illness. I want their help in understanding my own problem. I also want to study their methods. I thought that by going there as a patient, I would be far more likely to get their help in finding openings in this field. It is still my feeling that this would have been the best way.

Please do not think I am unhappy or unwell. I may be stubborn, but I do feel that there is nothing to grieve over in this apparent catastrophe.

Dr. D. suggested the other day that I ought to try to forget these abnormal experiences. My reply is that I cannot forget and that I can see no reason to disbelieve. It has all been consistent. It is only that things are working out more literally than I had anticipated. It makes life a very stern and exacting affair. What would there be to live for if the foundations of my faith were swept away? Facts are of course to be accepted in so far as they can be determined, but on beyond the facts is the realm of faith and we must believe and act upon our beliefs if ever they are to be realized. I see no reason to believe that my faith has not been supported by the facts, not, at least, after allowance has been made for ever-present errors.

Yes, my darling Mother, I do believe in prayer. I believe that its chief function is not to help us attain what we want, but to find out what is wanted of us and to enable us to draw upon the sources of strength which will make it possible for us to accomplish our task, whatever it may be.

My prayer now is that in this critical period we may receive guidance and strength to do whatever is right and best in the long run; and if I have made any mistakes in the past, I pray for forgiveness and for the chance to set myself right again.

All during this period I had not written to Alice; neither had I heard from her beyond a kindly reply to a letter that I had written to her just before the commitment, which must have told her at once what had happened. In that letter I outlined my idea of the family-of-four, which, when I came to myself, seemed horrifying. My silence was due partly to the life-and-death struggle in which I was engaged, partly also to the feeling that letters written at this time would seem like appeals for sympathy. There was no lack of thought of her. It just seemed better to wait until the situation cleared.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 23 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.


Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, God bless!