LISTEN: Out of the Depths: An Autobiographical Study of Mental Disorder and Religious Experience, by Anton T. Boisen, #54 (Ordained Chaplains: Out of the Depths #55 with Daniel Whyte III / Gospel Light Society University)

Daniel Whyte III
Daniel Whyte III

Our Ordained Chaplains Scripture Verse for today is Romans 12:21 which reads, “Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.”

Our Ordained Chaplains quote for today is from John MacArthur. He said, “All Christians are but God’s stewards. Everything we have is on loan from the Lord, entrusted to us for a while to use in serving Him.”

In this podcast, we will continue reading the book “Out of the Depths” by Anton T. Boisen. We continue today with “Chapter 4: A Little-Known Country” (Part 5), where Boisen concludes the letter he wrote to Fred Eastman, and describes what happened afterwards:

The letter continues: “I feel that there has been some definite purpose in this journey of mine. That purpose, it seems, is to give my place to some other man. I want a chance for my father and for what he could do in the world. The one woman who has the power to make this possible will think me insane if I write to her directly. You offered once to make a trip for me, if it should be necessary. I should like to have you go and see her and lay the case before her. You have been a perfect friend. Therefore I dare to ask this of you. My thought would be a quiet ceremony, a little time together. Then I would eliminate myself. I could not ask such a thing for myself, but only for my father.

“If the matings of the future are in fours, then it should be easy to produce and maintain the great man and his opposite.”

This letter was not included in the record which I gave to Alice in 1923. Immediately after mailing it to Fred Eastman I was greatly horrified by it, and in the letter I sent her I reverted to the idea that there must be some other man.

It will be clear that I was becoming more and more excited and bewildered, and the ideas were more and more foreign to my usual modes of thought.

For several days I said nothing to my family, but finally I broke the rule of silence and began to share my fears. Then came another source of terror. After talking somewhat freely one morning, it came to me that there were other forces, hostile forces of which I had not dreamed before. There were, it seemed, other dimensions of which we are not ordinarily aware. It seemed that the world was all ears, and the words which I had spoken would bring about my undoing, and defeat the cause with which I was concerned.

On Saturday afternoon about three o’clock, according to a letter to Fred Eastman of November, 1920, I suddenly felt a sickening sensation, something I could not account for. I went down at once to see Mother and told her that something awful had happened. I did not know what it was, but I thought I had been “betrayed.” Then I went into the next room and found there a man I did not know. This was a physician who had been called in, but I did not know it at the time, for he did not question me. He just watched and listened.

Meanwhile, my family had become greatly alarmed and I was myself not without some appreciation of the situation. I recall remarking at supper on the final evening that my perceived insanity was of great importance, and that I intended to investigate it. But my first intimation that they were thinking of sending me to a hospital was when six policemen came marching into the room where I was working, and one of them announced that I had better come quietly or there would be trouble.

The size of the squad gave evidence of my family’s alarm.

In our next podcast, we will continue with Part 6 of Chapter 4, “A Little Known Country”.


Chaplains are spiritual representatives of Christ commissioned to work in mostly secular institutions. We are expected to serve both the spiritual and emotional needs of others through listening, prayer, Scripture reading, and being God’s hands and feet in the organization we are privileged to serve in. This podcast is designed to equip chaplains and those training to be chaplains with the resources and encouragement they need to carry out their calling in life.


Now, if you have come across this podcast, and do not know the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, allow me to show you how.

First, accept the fact that you are a sinner, and that you have broken God’s law. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.”

Second, accept the fact that there is a penalty for sin. The Bible states in Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death…”

Third, accept the fact that you are on the road to hell. Jesus Christ said in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Also, the Bible states in Revelation 21:8: “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Now this is bad news, but here’s the good news. Jesus Christ said in John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Just believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead by the power of God for you so that you can live eternally with Him. Pray and ask Him to come into your heart today, and He will.

Romans 10:9-13 says, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Until next time, my friend, please keep in mind these reasons to believe. God bless!

Daniel Whyte III has spoken in meetings across the United States and in over twenty-five foreign countries. He is the author of over forty books including the Essence Magazine, Dallas Morning News, and national bestseller, Letters to Young Black Men. He is also the president of Gospel Light Society International, a worldwide evangelistic ministry that reaches thousands with the Gospel each week, as well as president of Torch Ministries International, a Christian literature ministry.

He is heard by thousands each week on his radio broadcasts/podcasts, which include: The Prayer Motivator Devotional, The Prayer Motivator Minute, as well as Gospel Light Minute X, the Gospel Light Minute, the Sunday Evening Evangelistic Message, the Prophet Daniel’s Report, the Second Coming Watch Update and the Soul-Winning Motivator, among others.

He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Theology from Bethany Divinity College, a Bachelor’s degree in Religion from Texas Wesleyan University, a Master’s degree in Religion, a Master of Divinity degree, and a Master of Theology degree from Liberty University’s Rawlings School of Divinity (formerly Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary). He is currently a candidate for the Doctor of Ministry degree.

He has been married to the former Meriqua Althea Dixon, of Christiana, Jamaica since 1987. God has blessed their union with seven children.